Advice on buying a new horse

topic posted Sat, July 26, 2008 - 8:00 AM by  Elizabeth
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I've been leasing horses for a while, but am ready to buy one for myself *again* after a long time of being officially horseless. With all the online resources today, where do you find that there is the best selection (I live in the greater Seattle area). And what do you suggest to do when looking at prospective horses-- the proverbial "kicking the tires" test? Any advice would be helpful!
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Elizabeth
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  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Sat, July 26, 2008 - 11:27 AM
    Leasing horses is ultimately more affordable.

    But if you must buy, look at the feet. Feet = Soundness.

    Feet should be similar in size and angle. They will never be exactly the same. Beware Hi-Lo feet (one large low angled foot, one small upright foot). They seem to go lame the most. Some feet may look the same, but sometimes a foot has a low angle on one foot and dish on the other foot, which makes the angles look similar. Check for dishes and differences in heel length.

    Watching from the front (or rear), Feet should travel fairly straight and land fairly flat. Feet that land too far outside the body or land hard from outside heel to inside heel go lame often.

    When the foot bears weight, the pastern/fetlock should sink right between the bulbs. If it sinks far to the inside of the body, it will go lame eventually.

    Each of these ideas relate to the other. If you find one, you usually find the other. A horse that lands flat, travels straight, and has similar feet equals a symmetrical body. You will ride better, you saddles will fit better, you will have fewer Vet bills. Don't buy horse that is already in wedges and eggbar shoes. Natural Balance shoes and frog support pads on often used on horses that are perfectly sound, but be suspicious of ANYTHING outside a normal shoeing.

    Always get a Vet check, even on a free horse. Sometimes Farriers see things that Vets don't, So if you have a knowledgeable farrier, get his opinion if he is willing.

    Keep in mind no horse is perfect. A good mind and willing temperament are important too.

    • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

      Sat, July 26, 2008 - 11:33 AM
      How is it more affordable? I've never heard of a full-lease for anything less than the horse costs. After all, no one wants to loose money on the deal. True, the leasor is mostly likely the one to foot the bill for sudden vet expenses, and you can cancel the lease if the horse is no longer working out, or is too old to ride. But then, you also have to worry about the lease being cancelled and being out all the time you've spent working with the horse. That's certainly worth something.
      • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

        Sat, July 26, 2008 - 11:53 AM
        True, owning a horse give you more control over what happens to the horse, but leasing saves you the purchase price of the horse, any major vet bills, and if the horse is no longer able to be ridden due to unsoundness or age, you are not stuck with a large, expensive pet.

        Of course, every one desired to own their own horse and if you are a competitor, you need to own. If you are a pleasure or trail rider - not so much.
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Sat, July 26, 2008 - 11:31 AM
    My trainer would never buy a horse w/o a two week, at her farm test. You need enough time to figure out what the horse's personality is like, and to see how he/she adjusts to a new place and new people. Some horses react very differently away from their long-time home. I leased my horse for some time before buying her. I also heartily recommend a full vet check.
    • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

      Sat, July 26, 2008 - 1:14 PM
      if the horse is stalled & saddled when you go to see it, don't buy. red flag. i want to make sure the horse is catchable & i am able to handle & tack them up myself.
      i chose to purchase a spanish mustang because: they are known for having good feet (see post #1)
      they are loyal when bonded to you (if you want that sort of relationship)
      they are hardy~i keep mine in pasture 24/7
      they are small (not as far to fall!)
      so decide what you are looking for~
      I found a breeder of this breed, talked with them, they helped me find a good match.
      i test rode & visited him twice before buying, but didn't get a vet check. they can be helpful but don't always find problems if there are any~ i've seen this happen to others where i board. they got vet checks but health issues came up later. but on the other hand it can't hurt...
      • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

        Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:36 AM
        definitely do a prepurchase exam (with your vet or one with a good reputation) if you have a serious prospect. It seems like an expensive thing to do, but it will save you LOTS of money in the long term... we did a prepurchase on a horse last week who has won lots of things, and the woman wanted to buy her for her 12 year old to show; she has trashed pasterns in the front that were subtle! It would have been an expensive disaster in the end.
        good luck!
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Tue, August 5, 2008 - 10:34 AM
    Dreamhorse is a good site, that's where I found my TB x Appy.
    General health and fitness is the first thing to look at, including the feet. But I think everyone has said that by now.
    My first horse turned out to be a rescue case. The only reason we got him is because I 'clicked' with him, and he's turned out to be a sweet, smart, and willing horse.
    My second horse was a barrel racer = hyped up nervous run run run go go go. I got him because we 'clicked'. He went from not standing still under saddle, to stopping and taking a nap.
    Having said that, my advice is to make sure that you click with the horse. If everything about the horse looks good, but you just don't feel right around him, I would say keep looking.

    It's been said that people don't pick thier horse, the horses pick their people. It's been true with both of mine. Trust your gut, and good luck.
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Thu, August 7, 2008 - 11:45 AM
    The only way to be really sure (as possible) when buying a horse is find the one that interests you then have your own vet (not theirs) properly go over the horse. It is well worth the expense. Even after having my own horse for over 15 years and working with them today I would still have a horse I wanted to buy vetted out by a large animal vet I trust. Hope this helps!
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Tue, August 12, 2008 - 5:10 PM
    OK. I found a horse I'm interested in.
    www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php

    Unfortunately, he is about 100 miles away and isn't really old enough to ride yet.

    What would you suggest in this case?
    • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

      Tue, August 12, 2008 - 6:36 PM
      He is two years old and already twelve hundred pounds. This is going to be a big horse. Great if you're doing dressage, but the judges might not care for the pinto coat. Not great for just going down the trails. You need a whole lot more pictures and possible video. A lot more money on training. This is big project.

      What were you looking for to begin with?
      • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

        Tue, August 12, 2008 - 8:56 PM
        >>What were you looking for to begin with?

        Good question! I'm looking for a horse for dressage, some jumping, a little cross country. I'd like some natural talent. Spring. Good sized. And a black and white tobiano with no glass or wall eyes. I'm happy to wait for a bit to ride. I've ridden since I was 3 and trained a few horses, although it has been a while. I'm not expecting to do any major competing. But I'd like the process of training, developing a relationship, etc. Am I barking up the wrong tree? :-)
        • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

          Sat, August 30, 2008 - 3:58 PM
          Its good you want to be part of the process

          Take your time to read and get an idea of what you feel...one thing to remeber is to not get too fixated on any one style or trainer,,we all know what we know but no one admits what they don't know,,,

          True Horsemanship Through Feel, by Bill Dorrance is a good book to get an idea, tho its western inclined, FEEL is universal, and most trainers teach the mechanics, and feel is subjective,,,his brother Tom has a book called True Unity,,,they are considered the godfathers of the modern natural horsemanship movement, Ray Hunt popularized thru his clinics and everyone else is an off-shoot of Ray...I personally was mentored by Tom in 1987 and knew him till 1991,,,his goal was to have people Not imitate him, his goal was for each individual to find their space inside that connects with their horse,,,thats why some places that teach only go so far, no matter what they promise,,,its still between you and the horse,,,other people can guide us,and sometimes others can interfere because they tell us what they know, but they can't teach what they don't know...and no one should limit others because of their own limitations,,,


          have some fun, its a wonderful experience to know of the feeling

          best regards, Sol
          • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

            Sat, August 30, 2008 - 4:02 PM
            P.S. one more thing

            if you're buying a horse thats already under saddle, never get on the horse unless you've seen the owner or trainer riding it,,,,also if you go with a trainer, always see what the horse knows up to that point,,,"trainers" like to brag about how they can ride and they're too quick to make a decision regarding a horse they just met...

            also some people sell a horse that has issues, so let the owners ride,,,I've known of quite a few trainers that got on a horse and the horse busted them because they "knew" horses, so the horse gave them another education


            issues aren't surmountable, just because someone has a problem doesn't mean the horse should be written off, a fresh start can be a great way for a horse

            also make sure, THEY pick up the feet,,,theres a lot of psychology there, pay attention
            • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

              Thu, September 11, 2008 - 12:59 PM
              I have only one bit of advice to give... please don't buy a horse, RESCUE one.. there are so many incredible horses sitting in feedlots that will die if not for someone like you. Go to unitedpegasus.com There is a page full of young, beautiful slaughter bound horses. If you are getting a young horse anyway it's perfect for you. Check out the PMU foals. Many of them are big, colored(roans, paints etc) and beautiful!. Yes, they are in Canada but the cost of shipping plus the adoption fee will still be WAY less than buying a horse and you will have the satisc=faction of saving a life.

              my more than two cents.
              Anah
              • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

                Fri, September 12, 2008 - 8:03 PM
                Amen to the rescue idea- there are so many that are great horses. I adopted a x-PMU and she had a baby who is turning out to be gorgeous and a wonderful sport horse prospect. She has great feet and is truly beautiful though I will have to have her trained to ride. You an check her and her baby out on my profile. Good luck- vet check is a good idea though!
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Mon, September 15, 2008 - 2:07 PM
    I agree with everyone on the checks. I especially agree about rescuing. There are so many animals in the world, we don't need to be breeding more while others (who are perfectly good animals) starve! A place that lists all the rescues near you is petfinder.com There are a lot of rescues listed on that site! Good luck!
  • Re: Advice on buying a new horse

    Tue, October 14, 2008 - 7:36 PM
    hey girl, this was my job for a long time...send me an email at strutyournastystuff@gmail.com, and i can send you a form i used to use to help find horses for people. i love love love looking and would be happy to have a look for you (for free of course). and tell you how not to get screwed!

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